Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story... (2024)

Originally Posted by Voidmage

It does leave a bit of a taste that the scions keep meddling in leadership affairs to such a degree…

You know maybe I am the only one but I am growing tired of being buddybuddy with every single leader of a nation.
It’s becoming realy unrealistic and onedimensional because right now there is actually worldpeace on Etherys because every leader of the nations is a goody two shoes and if not you have the nuclear warhead WoL dangling over all.

DT showed that we can just telephone in the first brood even.
I don‘t know where this is supposed to end.

In 6.55 they gabe me the choice of my character not being to happy with meddling in politics again only to forgoe that again after half an hour in DT with the WoL just too happy. At least a grumbling answer would have been nice.

I really wished they would start to learn to tell another story.

All writers are bad with that, even Ishikawa.
No evil nation leader allowed anymore and now with Garlemald gone there is no grey anymore in the world. Only peace and happiness.

This. So mush this

Originally Posted by Aword3213

This. So mush this

I'll give Hiroi credit: the *idea* of two groups who are both 'right' coming into conflict is great.

He just... there's a level beyond screwing the pooch I apparently didn't know about.

Originally Posted by BigBoom550

I'll give Hiroi credit: the *idea* of two groups who are both 'right' coming into conflict is great.

He just... there's a level beyond screwing the pooch I apparently didn't know about.

Please don't screw Poochie. The last thing we need is mini Wuk Lamats.

Originally Posted by Isala

Please don't screw Poochie. The last thing we need is mini Wuk Lamats.

Talk to three Divorce Court attendees about child support 0/3

Originally Posted by Isala

Please don't screw Poochie. The last thing we need is mini Wuk Lamats.

Part of me is glad that I wasn't the only one who caught on that...

And the other got sad because I caught on that.

What I would give for another Bloody Banquet...

Tural could have been really interesting with the new people and cultures and possible dynamics. Peace is great and all but when everything is working near "perfectly" it leads to a very dull world of hand holding and singing campfire songs.

I'd have been nice if they drew upon more real world situations and historical events and just...how people interact with each other. It would have been nice to see people talk about the biggest political event in the last 80 years with more nuance. Have some in-fighting, have groups openly disagree with some of the candidates out in the open world. It would have made it feel a lot more connected to what was going on.

But again...this is all fan fiction and wishful thinking.

Originally Posted by Isala

Please don't screw Poochie. The last thing we need is mini Wuk Lamats.

The sad thing is that I really believe Wuk could've been an interesting character with some good development and story. Unfortunately, for me personally anyway, the story presented Wuk Lamat as a "Black Hole Sue" of sorts from start to finish.

Even if, as some people say, "Dawntrail is Wuk Lamat's expansion and story", many of the situations and confrontations that occur are presented very specifically to accommodate and reward Wuk's specific actions/way of thinking, with most resulting in "perfect" resolutions and outcomes always in her favor.

As much as I love my boy Bakool Ja Ja, you're not going to convince me that after kidnapping Wuk to take her keystone, releasing Valigarmanda for literally no reason other then essentially "because I can", and literally saying that Wuk's birth father was going to be killed after Wuk loses in 1 on 1 combat against him, alongside some other basic villain things like pulling his weapons out against civilians to strike them down and constantly blocking the feat paths, that after just a few bonks on the heads with an axe, one sad story that our WoL LITERALLY says to not use as an excuse for what he's done, and ONE short heart to heart talk with Wuk, they are now friends and everyone around just goes "Okay, he's forgiven." The fact Alisaie even says "Well, maybe it's for the best. Hatred is exhausting, after all" right after along with Wuk saying all her anger just disappeared effortlessly caused me some bad whiplash at how insanely sudden the 180 was both done and resolved with an absolutely perfect outcome.

I will say though, overall, I really did enjoy Dawntrail. Once I quickly figured out early on to turn my brain off when it came to Wuk Lamat in anyway.

Originally Posted by ZXN

I will say though, overall, I really did enjoy Dawntrail. Once I quickly figured out early on to turn my brain off when it came to Wuk Lamat in anyway.

Someone needs to make "Dawntrail Without Wuk Lamat" ala Garfield Without Garfield, if for no other reason I really want to see how much shorter it would be

Originally Posted by BigBoom550

I'll give Hiroi credit: the *idea* of two groups who are both 'right' coming into conflict is great.

He just... there's a level beyond screwing the pooch I apparently didn't know about.

I consider the concept pretentious.